I suggest we start at Victoria Square again, head down King William, along North Terrace, up Pultney and back along Waymouth street, ending in front of the church.

Could I suggest up Rundle Mall? It seems we were quite popular with the general public and the mall is a good place to take photos and hand out flyers.

As it’s Hubbard’s birthday, is it too much to give it a birthday party theme? If someone was to bring a CD with the Birthday Song, and some other music (examples being the X-Files theme, Bel’Air, some Rick Roll, and possibly Hubbard music video tracks from YouTube) could some Anon organize a CD Player and (if applicable) a permit to play music?

However, Anon would have to learn the lyrics to the songs to prevent failure.

Hmm, a permit to play music publicly might be very hard, its not a matter of speaking to the council, but rather the copyright owners and we would have to pay royalties and licensing fees and such.

• http://www.ppca.com.au/
• http://www.apra.com.au/music-users/default.asp

Are the 2 organisations needed to speak to to obtain licences for public play.

I second the Victoria Square start, but wonder whether we ought to include the east end. A gaggle of anonymity traipsing down Rundle Street might attract the curious and otherwise occupied.

SO, Vic Square, King William, Nth Terrace, From, Rundle, King William, Waymouth, the Crutch of Scientography

I hite Ga Binetto!

We could sing the song they sing on birthdays in Futurama. They couldn’t use “Happy Birthday” because it it copyrighted, so they made a song very similar, but that was not protected by idiotic legal tomfoolery.
It does not appear to be copyrighted.
But perhaps party hats and masks is more reasonable than expecting alleged members of an anarchic, headless collective to learn a song.

I’d suggest against getting to hung up on the whole happy birthday thing or the average passerby will just go “WTF?”
The pary hats idea’s pretty good though.

I suggest we start at Victoria Square again, head down King William, along North Terrace, up Pultney and back along Waymouth street, ending in front of the church.

Seconded.

Rundle Mall is tight, hard to move a large group through, and we have a high chance of causing obstruction. That, and the fact that people there are shopping. On King William Street (if we include the tram stops) there are just as many people and they’re usually just waiting for buses. We should stop several times along the way.

I think will will just piss people off if we do the mall, because we will just get in their way. the mall would be busy then.

I suggest we start at Victoria Square again, head down King William, along North Terrace, up Grenfell rather then Pultney as it has more dudes, and back down King William then along Waymouth street, ending in front of the church.

I secont FireAndForget’s motion.

How about we start at Victoria Square, and split into 2 groups.

The smaller one will take Rundle mall while the others take the main streets, meeting up at the crutch of $hoentology after a short parade.

Has anyone else seen Goodwood train station lately? It is completely covered in $cientology propaganda and quotes from L Ron. Is there some way we could incorporate this or possibly include it in a future protest?

“Hmm, a permit to play music publicly might be very hard, its not a matter of speaking to the council, but rather the copyright owners and we would have to pay royalties and licensing fees and such.”

Much simpler is to find some buskers sympathetic to our cause, they already have licenses etc. As for Goodwood station, it’s been like that for a decade, there must be an org nearby – and potential council involvement. Either way it is disgusting, though perhaps it could be allowed ‘cos it looks nice sans the indoctrination but the messages do not belong and must be removed. We should simply leaflet the station, perhaps just leave ‘youfoundthecard’s around. No vandalism, please.

having a smaller group go through rundle mall might be a good idea, as i can imagine 150+ people walking through the masses of people who are there to shop and such, might cause some problems. a smaller group would be less of a nuisance, and could draw quite a bit of attention good and bad.

as for the route, i still don’t know my way around the city still so i wouldn’t have a clue in the slightest

I think it would be worth doing Rundle Mall at the very least. Really, the other streets are way too unoccupied. People’s shopping should not really be distrupted – there have been big marches down the Mall before, and its not like we will be loitering, just passing through. Plus there is a lot of room.

But if its too problematic, North Terrace at least should be visited to draw attention from passing cars.

Agreed, Rundle mall should be done, even if it is by a smaller group, perhaps 20 people.

You can probably get out more flyers in Rundle Mall in half an hour, than almost anywhere else in two.

However main protest should be Vic Square, KWS, North Terrace, Morphet, Curray, Topham mall and swinging around to the Scientology.

My $0.02

The problem with designating a small group to split off is “How do you decide who goes?” I mean, it’s not as if you can put up a sign-up sheet.

I second FireAndForgets route, with the group splitting up at the start of rundle mall, small group go down rundle mall, second group go around and down north tce, then meet up again at the other end of rundle mall.

As for the problem of splitting the groups, perhaps we should designate a few people while @ vic square.

I’m with cOw MoO, it makes sense, and there’s no point agonising who goes down Rundle until the day.

OK… I think the small group down Rundle Mall is good. However, make it at least 15 people, and no more then 20.

Why?

Well, less then 15 people will just look like some idiots in masks, people won’t think “Organised Protest” they’ll think “lol some dudes in funny masks.”

More then 20 gets in the way. Maybe 25 tops. But yeah.

I’d say 30, Rundle Mall’s pretty broad. Think about the times you’ve seen a class group move through, they fit pretty well, and they’re 30+ we are trying to get noticed. We can always spread out if space becomes an issue.

A couple of points:

Rundle Mall – the 15th being a Saturday, the mall will be packed. I would suggest keeping to the 15-20 idea, make them well organised and keep to the centre of the mall. We really don’t want to piss off the shoppers.

Also – lay off the “Hail Xenu”. We need to stick to the facts, and whilst I know that the whole Xenu/thetans thing is a fact, most people hear “Hail Xenu” and just roll their eyes. Concentrate on the fact that people have to pay to hear the truth, about what happens to people once they’re in the church, what happened to Lisa McPherson & the others. Xenu’s a big joke, we should be concentrating on the real harm that’s being done to real people.

@Animus: You gotta realise, most of what people still know about Scientology was told to them in that South Park episode. Not that I’m against streamlining our message (definitely needs that), but if it grabs the publics approval…

hey wot about the xmas pageant route?

The other thing is, limiting the Rundle Mall group is good.

Adelaide Council won’t be big on the idea of a group going through Rundle.

Permits, remember.

@AnonymooseSmith – But chanting “hail Xenu” doesn’t grab the public’s approval. That’s the problem.

I work near the Church in Adelaide and on the Monday after the raid I heard a lot of comments about the chanting, a lot of rolled eyes and not a lot of discussion about the salient points we were trying to get across.

We need to move away from the gimmicky side. Away from the image of snickering nerds throwing the equivalent of devil horns. We don’t need to be completely solemn and serious – having fun will help bring people in. But there’s fun and there’s silly.

To be honest, what Scientologists believe is not germane. They believe in Thetans and Xenu and DC-8s (9s. Whatever). Christians believe in an omnipotent God. I believe in a Flying Spaghetti monster. Let them believe what they want, as I said, we need to concentrate on the real world harm. The rip-offs, the censorship, the injury and harm done to real people who were lonely, sad, scared enough to submit to their tactics.

Any point in proposing a single file down rundle? I think it would look effective and it wouldn’t be as disruptive